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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I run 17"s in the front and 18's in the rear??
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can I run 17"s in the front and 18's in the rear??


I know I cant being a 4x4 but im not sure about you. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don I wish that superchips would have worked for you. Your shifting would be better! I know you said something about Louis and someone elses shift being better.

And Superchips is coming out with another update in a couple weeks to take the lag outta 2nd gear( its gonna hols the gear till 75 if i read it right which it holds it to 52 know). I guess we have 2 second gears and if you have over 330-340 rwhp which I'm real close to, I guess we just burn the tranny's up. The superchips update is gonna help out with that problem.

Plus they just bumped my idle from 500 to 700 steady, that was new all's you do is give them your tuner serial number and the Dodge calibrations team does the rest. I'm really loving what Superchips is starting to offer us.

They have the Dodge calibrations team aboard with them.


Does Louis and the other person that you say their trucks shift better have Superchips doewnloaded in their trucks?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay I think they both do, for sure Louie, but not real sure with Rob. Rob's is a Daytona also, if that makes a diff. You know Jay, I sure wouldn't want to tell you something that isn't true. But when we went to 17's on the rear, we got a lot of neat things like traction and less weight, but we had the rev limit/shift point collide and do a terrible shift, we cut out before the end of the track, and top end was low 80's, and the computer thinking we were going 110. B&G fixed the colliding of shift point/rev limit, top end two weeks ago was 83. Had the sc last year, the same slicks and several folks that either had sc or knew about it's capabilities or how hemis worked. Tried eveything they could think of, but nothing really worked all that good with the slicks and NX. Don't know why, or if it was only 3850. Rob did get 12.9/105.14 w/o sc but the top end gave us the same 83 at the end of quarter. Rev limit/shift point worked great, we shift at 5800, and rev limit is supposed to bee 6800, but I don't want to prove that one. It didn't come up as a problem racing 2 w/e ago. You guys, I'm not trying to tell you what to do, guess just saying with slicks, the computer gets messed up. Slicks gives you some good things also. We ran with stock tires 2 w/e ago, and that was just wasted time.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay let me know when that new update comes out!!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dline, I just noticed you had a 4x4....WOW dude amazing!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jay I think they both do, for sure Louie, but not real sure with Rob. Rob's is a Daytona also, if that makes a diff. You know Jay, I sure wouldn't want to tell you something that isn't true. But when we went to 17's on the rear, we got a lot of neat things like traction and less weight, but we had the rev limit/shift point collide and do a terrible shift, we cut out before the end of the track, and top end was low 80's, and the computer thinking we were going 110. B&G fixed the colliding of shift point/rev limit, top end two weeks ago was 83. Had the sc last year, the same slicks and several folks that either had sc or knew about it's capabilities or how hemis worked. Tried eveything they could think of, but nothing really worked all that good with the slicks and NX. Don't know why, or if it was only 3850. Rob did get 12.9/105.14 w/o sc but the top end gave us the same 83 at the end of quarter. Rev limit/shift point worked great, we shift at 5800, and rev limit is supposed to bee 6800, but I don't want to prove that one. It didn't come up as a problem racing 2 w/e ago. You guys, I'm not trying to tell you what to do, guess just saying with slicks, the computer gets messed up. Slicks gives you some good things also. We ran with stock tires 2 w/e ago, and that was just wasted time.

you have been the only one i have ever heard of to have that problem..sounds like just an issue with your computer i don't reset anything when i swap out my 17's my speedo is pegged at 120 when i cross the traps lol what is sounds like is your rev limter wasn't set higher than your shift points which i know you said you tried but that is exactly what you are describing..There's a guy on DT running nitrous all the boltons and 6.1 cam at the time and hes running 17's with DR's just fine and he is in the 12's..You just have to make sure you get a tall enough tire im pretty much at the limit with my setup but i meant to do that to get everything that i can with the power im putting out because i don't really plan on much more engine stuff..

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay, when I run stock tires, nothing happened with the computer or limits. Just no traction. With the slicks I definitely had the rev limit/shift point collide. Jay, stock, the bee had a 5600 shift point. That is supposed to bee what everyone had, stock. The rev limit, stock, was 5800, stock. Well, when you are racing and pushing the two, that two hundred RPM is not enough to keep them apart and it would shift but before it could let loose to shift, the rev limit was hit, and it was a very dead fish for a second. We had two shifts that way with evey run made. That was very real, Rob recognized it right away and got the NX off immediately. As 3850 went down the track, it would also have the computer think it was going 110, which was pretty much a stock figure for bees for top limit. Some claimed more or higher some claimed less, like maybee 105. But 110 was definitley 3850's limit, had seen it enough to know it was 110. Rob checked the speedo when that happened, and it was saying 83 MPH, not 110. Of course, with stock tires we never got that high, so no limit was hit. I don't know why this would bee so different, but I know of many on here that gave those same limits for their bee. With 17" slicks, it screws up the computer royally, honest. The computer will think you are going faster than you really are, and with only 200 RPMs difference between shift point/rev limit, they would collide. But as I said, B&G CHRYSLER fixed the shift point/rev limit. Now they must know there's a need to fix that problem, for they are making a living on taking care of those types of problems. I now have shift point at 5800, and Rob says it does shift at 5800, it was 5600 as were most bees, or at least 2 wheel drive bees. My rev limit is now 6800. I've personally seen it at 6400, as I did my own shifting one day and while in second I forgot to watch the tach, but was looking at the speedo. It was screaming at 6400, with no intentions of cutting out. I wouldn't know a lot of this stuff, but Rob does, and he recoginized what was going on immediatley. I don't know why no one else is having problems with this, at the time I bought my slicks, 17"/27" rubber is all that was available, and a lot of folks had that size rim/rubber, so they should've had the same problem. Now I do know the guy that has the blue and white Indy figured out that a 3.56 gear would maybee not have that problem, he figured it out mathmatically. But that creates other problems which I didn't want to be burdened with, so enter B&G and a computer reburn. What got the 12.9 was the key trick, or 3850 would've shut down everytime at 83 MPH. We know that with no uncertainty. Rob turned the key at 80 and we went throught the trap full speed, 105.14. Like I said I have no intentions of saying that 3850 is right and I am right, or that you will all have the same problems, but we know with the 17's the computer WILL think you are going faster than you really are, has to for the wheels are turning faster, and your limits will happen before they would normally happen. Now if folks have the chip or different rear ends, it's a whole new ball game. 3850 has just the 17's and limits that were stock, and everything happened sooner than it was supposed to. Only the reburn made it work better. The chip we had did nothing but confuse a lot of guys that either had them or knew how to use them. It would not let us get past 110, even though we knew we weren't going that fast. OK, Jay, hope you know what I'm saying, after all this. It is how 3850 runs, and I beelieve we are the same as any other bee for limits and running 17's. The computer will think you are going faster than you really are.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just saying the chip is updated many times since you have tried it and will prolly work for ya. As Zemog255 said in the post above yours it must just be your pcm or something as no one slse is having the problem when running superchips and 17's we can adjust the tire size all the way down to 22.5 inches tall. Thats a small tire. And I know your slick is 27.6 tall............With me the B&G flash is gonna be a must here shortly after i put the comps. 268 in this beast. Unless superchips comes out with a custom tune. The chip just wont help the 268 comps cam idle.

I know stock the limiter is to low. I know that, I thought you were speaking of the superchips the whole time. I didnt realize you tried the juice without the chip in.

Don your running great times I wouldnt even worry about the superchips anymore if i were you. Sounds like you more than happy with the B&G flash(except for the 83 mph thing). Like I said i'll be down the same road sometime next year with B&G..

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This thread just made my head spin! Laughing
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BEE0912 wrote:
This thread just made my head spin! Laughing


Laughing Your actually learning something. What power is. Wink

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Bigjay wrote:
BEE0912 wrote:
This thread just made my head spin! Laughing


Laughing Your actually learning something. What power is. Wink


i have a hard enough time remembering the gas in on the right Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Keith, like Jay says, you can learn from some of this stuff. Yes Jay, I am satisfied, and going for 12.5, then lower after that. Have been in contact with B&G and they will work with us for the top limit and whatever. Yes, we tried chips with and w/o NX, with slicks and w/o slicks. Never really got ahold of anything that gave us hope and understanding of anything wonderful. Then when Rob ran 3850 Last spring he saw somethings that were making more sense and it pointed to just get the computer to do what we wanted from chips and not have to worry about anything else, and a one time thing also. Very satisfied with the reburn, but we have an issue with top end and B&G will work with us. Jay, what keeps you from running NX or are you. Man, that would give your truck an awesome kick in the pants. It would also show us what 3850 would do if we did the stuff you have already done. Smile Smile Smile Must bee getting tired, just read this and not sure what I said. Jeeeeeeezzz!!
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BEE0912 wrote:
Bigjay wrote:
BEE0912 wrote:
This thread just made my head spin! Laughing


Laughing Your actually learning something. What power is. Wink


i have a hard enough time remembering the gas in on the right Laughing Laughing Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Keith, like Jay says, you can learn from some of this stuff. Yes Jay, I am satisfied, and going for 12.5, then lower after that. Have been in contact with B&G and they will work with us for the top limit and whatever. Yes, we tried chips with and w/o NX, with slicks and w/o slicks. Never really got ahold of anything that gave us hope and understanding of anything wonderful. Then when Rob ran 3850 Last spring he saw somethings that were making more sense and it pointed to just get the computer to do what we wanted from chips and not have to worry about anything else, and a one time thing also. Very satisfied with the reburn, but we have an issue with top end and B&G will work with us. Jay, what keeps you from running NX or are you. Man, that would give your truck an awesome kick in the pants. It would also show us what 3850 would do if we did the stuff you have already done. Smile Smile Smile Must bee getting tired, just read this and not sure what I said. Jeeeeeeezzz!!


Don, nope(scarred Wink ) no nitrous. I kinda want to see if I can do 12's n/a. I might juice my hot rod though(77 bird 462cid. gallery pics.) next summer. And like I've said, light 17's, stall , bigger cam, B&G flash to support cam. i should be close to 12's n/a. I hope. I'm sure Dline will get there first. He's got one fast 4x4.

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1977 FIREBIRD 10.9's, 670 heads, 70 462cid
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